Saturday, May 3, 2014

Comments on Krauthammer's ugly diatribe VC Star 0501314

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FactsMatter writes:
Look in the mirror for delusion Charles. None of Obamas problems come anywhere close to the Iraq mess you supported. In fact they are microscopic in comparison.
analog writes:
Can you imagine a debate between Charles and TeaBagBob? I'd pay to watch that massacre.
waynes-world writes:
Well he was a community organizer before he got this job, cut him some slack.
FactsMatter writes:
in response to analog:
Can you imagine a debate between Charles and TeaBagBob? I'd pay to watch that massacre.
Who is teabag Bob? I am not familiar with that poster. I am sure he would whip the Kraut man though. With his weak thinking and all.
michaelait#793630 writes:
"Self Delusion" An apt description of liberals 100% of the time.
Cy writes:
Obviously Krauthammer is a racist.
RIGHTisRIGHT writes:
in response to FactsMatter:
Look in the mirror for delusion Charles. None of Obamas problems come anywhere close to the Iraq mess you supported. In fact they are microscopic in comparison.
Look in the mirror for delusion,read your comments for an example of delusion.
RIGHTisRIGHT writes:
in response to FactsMatter:
Who is teabag Bob? I am not familiar with that poster. I am sure he would whip the Kraut man though. With his weak thinking and all.
Everyone posting here knows who teabag Bob is.He s also know for his weak thinking and fake facts.
bronzestarvue writes:
What do you expect from a first-term IL senator with no foreign policy experience...be careful who you vote for...do I blame him for our nation's miserably failed foreign policy? No, I blame all the knuckleheads who put him in office in the first place...
OnTheOutside writes:
I guess Putin waited long enough after the elections.
michaelait#793630 writes:
Sarah Palin V. Vlad Putin
A much fairer fight.
jjohnjj writes:
First class spin from K-Charles.
He pulled a nice "gotcha" there with Libya and Syria... except that those were interventions in conflicts that had already become shooting wars. And PBO did not retreat in Syria - Congress did.
Let's make one thing clear. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. There is no mountainous terrain where Ukrainian "Mujahadeen" can fire stinger missiles at Russian helicopters and then hide. It's flat, open country, and no amount of American-made weapons would lead to a "bloody and prolonged Ukrainian resistance".
The situation there is a civil war, with a mixed population and same kind of problems Britain had in Northern Ireland. The contest is over territory that was part of the Soviet Union for 70 years, ruled from Moscow for during the Czarist era, and traded back and forth with Russian kingdoms since the Middle Ages.
Conservative chickenhawks like Krauthhammer have only one agenda here, to embarrass the Commander-in-Chief during an on-going crisis, so they can win a few more seats in Congress, so they can pass a few more tax cuts for millionaires.
That's all there is to it.
RIGHTisRIGHT writes:
Obama said his white part is racist. That is not breaking news,
Liberals always raise the racist banner when anyone criticizes or disputes Obama.
HRpufenstuf writes:
in response to michaelait#793630:
"Self Delusion" An apt description of liberals 100% of the time.
Hahahahahha
-Funny world you "Exist" in.
waynes-world writes:
in response to jjohnjj:
First class spin from K-Charles.
He pulled a nice "gotcha" there with Libya and Syria... except that those were interventions in conflicts that had already become shooting wars. And PBO did not retreat in Syria - Congress did.
Let's make one thing clear. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. There is no mountainous terrain where Ukrainian "Mujahadeen" can fire stinger missiles at Russian helicopters and then hide. It's flat, open country, and no amount of American-made weapons would lead to a "bloody and prolonged Ukrainian resistance".
The situation there is a civil war, with a mixed population and same kind of problems Britain had in Northern Ireland. The contest is over territory that was part of the Soviet Union for 70 years, ruled from Moscow for during the Czarist era, and traded back and forth with Russian kingdoms since the Middle Ages.
Conservative chickenhawks like Krauthhammer have only one agenda here, to embarrass the Commander-in-Chief during an on-going crisis, so they can win a few more seats in Congress, so they can pass a few more tax cuts for millionaires.
That's all there is to it.
Just what "tax cuts" for millionaires are you referring to? Obama has done nothing but increase taxes on the "rich" since he was elected.
ON_the_RIGHT writes:
in response to jjohnjj:
First class spin from K-Charles.
He pulled a nice "gotcha" there with Libya and Syria... except that those were interventions in conflicts that had already become shooting wars. And PBO did not retreat in Syria - Congress did.
Let's make one thing clear. Ukraine is not Afghanistan. There is no mountainous terrain where Ukrainian "Mujahadeen" can fire stinger missiles at Russian helicopters and then hide. It's flat, open country, and no amount of American-made weapons would lead to a "bloody and prolonged Ukrainian resistance".
The situation there is a civil war, with a mixed population and same kind of problems Britain had in Northern Ireland. The contest is over territory that was part of the Soviet Union for 70 years, ruled from Moscow for during the Czarist era, and traded back and forth with Russian kingdoms since the Middle Ages.
Conservative chickenhawks like Krauthhammer have only one agenda here, to embarrass the Commander-in-Chief during an on-going crisis, so they can win a few more seats in Congress, so they can pass a few more tax cuts for millionaires.
That's all there is to it.
Your message is so pitiful that it is an intense reminder of why I passionately despise liberals.
As I've said many times, if liberal doctrine only affected liberals, I could live with that. I would even welcome it. People that are that deluded deserve to wallow in their leftist muck.
But, as Obama continues to prove, liberal stupidity affects everyone. In the past, "everyone" was limited to Americans. Now, Obama's weakness, incompetence, ineptitude, and stupidity have become so widespread, intense and blatant that it is negatively affecting and destabilizing the world as a whole.
Obama is a walking disease. Come to think of it, he doesn't walk.....he struts, trying and failing miserably to look like he knows what he's doing. Obama doesn't talk.....he preaches. He doesn't explain.....he lies. He doesn't admit.....he deceives. Transparent?! Obama hides, destroys or redacts every bit of documentation that proves that he and his administration are rotten to the core.
How a lowlife incompetent like Obama slithers his way into American politics is one of the great mysteries of our time. I never would have thought that there could ever be enough stupid, ignorant, and uninformed voters to put this rodeo clown in office and then vote again a second time to keep him there.
Liberals love pain, even when it's their own. Why else would anyone turn a toothless, anti-American, mongrel dog into President of the United States?
My apologies to mongrel dogs.
michaelait#793630 writes:
in response to HRpufenstuf:
Hahahahahha
-Funny world you "Exist" in.
-Thanks for making it "funnier"
Piru_T writes:
in response to michaelait#793630:
Sarah Palin V. Vlad Putin
A much fairer fight.
No doubt about that !
Bristol Palin would do a better job dealing with Putin than Obama has, in fact Obama's incompetence is so profound that it almost makes one feel as though he is working for the Bad Guys, not the USA !
cassandra9 writes:
Columnist is a propagandist. We could mail it in. Before it happened even.
BTW In case nobody's noticed, Obama, Kerry, et al. are getting very slim support from the Europeans, particularly from Germany. And for good reason. Maybe North America's short spurt of new petroleum could fill in for Russia's eventually but everybody in Germany, Ukraine, et al. would be frozen before the infrastructure were in place. And would you want to invest in Ukrainian infrastructure?
No, it's not the administration's tardiness in providing military assistance but its precipitous challenge without anything to back it up that was lame.
cassandra9 writes:
How much would you be willing to spend to keep the Ukrainian defenses from collapsing?
What the late Chalmers Johnson called the "Sorrows of Empire."
FactsMatter writes:
in response to waynes-world:
Just what "tax cuts" for millionaires are you referring to? Obama has done nothing but increase taxes on the "rich" since he was elected.
And look at the deficit go down down down below what he inherited. Hmmm.
analog writes:
@C3; You throw around the word "propagandist" very freely. This "propagandist" is a Pulizter Prize winning author, physician, and nationally syndicated columnist. And you?
waynes-world writes:
in response to FactsMatter:
And look at the deficit go down down down below what he inherited. Hmmm.
Ughhh yea raise taxes, it ain't rocket surgery. My question was what tax cuts cuts for the rich is he talking about? I keep hearing it but there is no truth to it, it's just another liberal talking point that has no basis in fact.
CamCal writes:
Much of Putin's aggression and timing may have come from the fact that he understands the psyche of the American citizen.
President Obama didn't simply hand over the decision on Syria to Congress because he thought that is the right path, otherwise he would have done the same prior to intervening in Libya. There was a stir in the air, the American public was/is tired of these interventions...tired of being at perpetual war. They let their representatives know how they/we felt.
Putin understands this, as well as C9's mention of the EU being unwilling to jump in due to their dependence on Russia's energy supply and the effect a disruption would have on their economies.
I don't believe there is a whole lot the President can bring to bear that will change what is happening on the ground in Ukraine.
cassandra9 writes:
Watching German news tonight on KCET, I learned a thing or two. If the academic expert from a German institute on Eastern Studies knows what he is talking about, there are factors I didn't know and which cast a different light on Obama/Merkel's stance, which tonight looked like a vague pledge of unity.
According to this local (to German) economist, Russia's economy is not good, is in recession, is indebted and not able to muster a lot of economic resources. Putin has sent the Ukrainians an outrageous bill to be settled by the end of May and Kiev is prepared to pay only at a lower rate.
But if Russia shut off the tap, it would suffer as well because of their financial position.
If they took over in E. Ukraine they too would suffer because they would have to raise the wages of Ukrainians to that of Russians.
Russians could turn to China and the two nations have been making overtures. However, the amount of new intrastructure needed to be completed for this union in a very short period of time is too great to be a real threat.
In brief, the sanctions path is actually not a bad strategy. Certainly not as lame as I originally thought.
Despite this columnist's knee jerk anti-Obamaism, this is not just appeasement of the bully, Putin, but a sensible tightening of some real screws based on some economic realities.
The trick is to keep the trouble on the ground from precipitating something really bad for US or our allies.
cassandra9 writes:
in response to waynes-world:
Ughhh yea raise taxes, it ain't rocket surgery. My question was what tax cuts cuts for the rich is he talking about? I keep hearing it but there is no truth to it, it's just another liberal talking point that has no basis in fact.
It has no basis not because it hasn't been attempted but because the corporate/plutocratic folks who own the Republican members of the House refused to allow it.
It really is nervy that those who crippled the Prez's power complain that he is weak!
CamCal writes:
"I can guarantee that we will have, in the first year, an immigration bill that I strongly support."
Could have happened, with the support of the House and Senate it could have been passed. They passed the ACA, they could have had another committee working on immigration and passed that too.
They could have raised the income tax rate on the rich.
I am not giving the Republicans a pass here, but sometimes I believe the Democrats play this game of delay, and when the situation(2010 elections) changes, they play the get out of jail free card by blaming the Republicans. Hell, Democrats have rich friends too.
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
"I can guarantee that we will have, in the first year, an immigration bill that I strongly support."
Could have happened, with the support of the House and Senate it could have been passed. They passed the ACA, they could have had another committee working on immigration and passed that too.
They could have raised the income tax rate on the rich.
I am not giving the Republicans a pass here, but sometimes I believe the Democrats play this game of delay, and when the situation(2010 elections) changes, they play the get out of jail free card by blaming the Republicans. Hell, Democrats have rich friends too.
I have news fir you..... they raised taxes on the " rich" happy now?
CamCal writes:
@waynes-world...not nearly to the extent their base wants.
I know this is a bit troubling, but you have to see both sides. There are a group of people, I believe some comment here, that think he hasn't gone far enough, not even close.
And there are folks like you, well, that think one penny increase in any tax is an impeachable offense.(poor Reagan and Bush Sr., they would have been executed by the TeaParty.
Think. Neither the further Left, nor the further Right, are right or wrong. But, if we can learn to compromise, rather than throw poop at each other, this country has a chance.
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
@waynes-world...not nearly to the extent their base wants.
I know this is a bit troubling, but you have to see both sides. There are a group of people, I believe some comment here, that think he hasn't gone far enough, not even close.
And there are folks like you, well, that think one penny increase in any tax is an impeachable offense.(poor Reagan and Bush Sr., they would have been executed by the TeaParty.
Think. Neither the further Left, nor the further Right, are right or wrong. But, if we can learn to compromise, rather than throw poop at each other, this country has a chance.
Well I can tell you this, those that don't pay the freight never think it's expensive. The top rate in this state is now 14% plus nearly 40% federal plus a new Obamacare tax of almost 4%. That's almost 60%, fair share? I think it's more than enough but I'm sure those that don't have to pay rate like that feel it's not enough right?
CamCal writes:
LMAO@ the top rate!!!
Dude, nobody pays that, and you know that.(I hope so) Certainly not someone bringing down $2 million a year with a halfway decent accountant.
Think.
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
LMAO@ the top rate!!!
Dude, nobody pays that, and you know that.(I hope so) Certainly not someone bringing down $2 million a year with a halfway decent accountant.
Think.
You obviously don't. It's funny, the people that don't pay the tax always think no one does. Think about this.......if no one paid it, why do they keep raising it?
Think about that.......dude
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
LMAO@ the top rate!!!
Dude, nobody pays that, and you know that.(I hope so) Certainly not someone bringing down $2 million a year with a halfway decent accountant.
Think.
And for the "rich" that make their money on capital gains like the 2m you quoted, in California capital gains is taxed as earned income so it's 14% plus 20% fed plus Obamacare at almost 4% . Rad huh dude?
waynes-world writes:
in response to waynes-world:
You obviously don't. It's funny, the people that don't pay the tax always think no one does. Think about this.......if no one paid it, why do they keep raising it?
Think about that.......dude
BTW these rates kick in at 250k not 2m, that will give you something to strive towards.
CamCal writes:
I only used the $2 million number as a reference...chill.
My point was, with approximately 72,000 pages of tax code, rife with kickbacks brought on by buying a $35,000 plate of food, nobody is paying top rate. There is so much favoritism written into the code, by both parties, it's a disaster.
Some years back it was divulged that our own Senator Fienstein paid a pittance in taxes...
We need a simple progressive tax code, sans all the gifts to the rich Left and Right.
Don't tell me flat or sales tax is the way to go...as much as this President has overused the word "fair", that should not be an option.
Just curious, why do you all repost a whole message when a simple @c9 or @wayne will suffice. Kinda crowds up the thread the way you all are doing it. Just a suggestion.
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
I only used the $2 million number as a reference...chill.
My point was, with approximately 72,000 pages of tax code, rife with kickbacks brought on by buying a $35,000 plate of food, nobody is paying top rate. There is so much favoritism written into the code, by both parties, it's a disaster.
Some years back it was divulged that our own Senator Fienstein paid a pittance in taxes...
We need a simple progressive tax code, sans all the gifts to the rich Left and Right.
Don't tell me flat or sales tax is the way to go...as much as this President has overused the word "fair", that should not be an option.
Just curious, why do you all repost a whole message when a simple @c9 or @wayne will suffice. Kinda crowds up the thread the way you all are doing it. Just a suggestion.
Guess cause I'm an old fart that doesn't twitter @dontgiveasheet
CamCal writes:
What?
LMAO!!!
Be good wayne, good night.
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
What?
LMAO!!!
Be good wayne, good night.
U 2
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
What?
LMAO!!!
Be good wayne, good night.
@wastingbandwidth
CamCal writes:
Haha, good one.
Still doesn't release you from your stupidity.
Cy writes:
in response to waynes-world:
And for the "rich" that make their money on capital gains like the 2m you quoted, in California capital gains is taxed as earned income so it's 14% plus 20% fed plus Obamacare at almost 4% . Rad huh dude?
So if a wealthy person owns stock in a company they are taxed once on the company profits and again on the capital gains. Not exactly the "free ride" liberals would have us believe when they bemoan the capital gains tax.
CamCal writes:
Dudes...Romney and Obama at best paid 15% last year in income tax. So did my daughter making a fraction of the wage...who did it impact more?
waynes-world writes:
in response to CamCal:
Haha, good one.
Still doesn't release you from your stupidity.
Back at ya (name calling removed)
FactsMatter writes:
This CamCal dude even succeeds at making Wayne look reasonable.
carthomas7 writes:
Conservative chickenhawks like Krauthhammer have only one agenda here, to embarrass the Commander-in-Chief during an on-going crisis, so they can win a few more seats in Congress, so they can pass a few more tax cuts for millionaires
Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2014/may/0...
- vcstar.com
I have 2 words for the failed doc Kraut who makes Dracula look handsome!! LOL
Iraq/Afghan
Can I add Pak, Yemen, Sudan!!
The politics of war aka massacres are a failure.
Like Lennon said "Give peace a chance?" Democratic, peaceful means take a longer time.
Many of these issues are complex and there are books written like by Chalmers that explain more than a propaganda by a paid propagandist.
RE: Saudi visit: I think it was just right to have the 1 on 1 and TRY to reason without a King who is a thug and used to getting HIS WAY against our interests like being in bed with the Wahabis that do 9-11 and preach anti US/West ANTI Islam hate.
Was a dinner scheduled?? Why toast (YouTube shows the custodian of the Kaaba hiding his champagne to the cameras with Bush). Oboma did the business that mattered and hopefully will be MORE forceful against the ugly Saudi policies.
What a shame the below the belt anti Prez Obama comments here. Give us back the 8 yrs of Bush if you can. We would be so much better off!!!
RIGHTisRIGHT writes:
in response to cassandra9:
It has no basis not because it hasn't been attempted but because the corporate/plutocratic folks who own the Republican members of the House refused to allow it.
It really is nervy that those who crippled the Prez's power complain that he is weak!
If the Prez can't deal with it,he should just give it up. Let a real leader pick up and deal with it.
carthomas7 writes:
The Prez can not only deal with it but is doing a superb job despite the traitorous opposition sabotaging our ship!!!!!!!!!
We will get the House back as it is obvious that the GOP has been hijacked by the likes of the cook brothers, Clarence Thomas and empty heads like Sarah.
Julia we love ya!!a


Read more: http://www.vcstar.com/news/2014/may/01/charles-krauthammer-a-foreign-policy-of-self/#ixzz30gMfhET0
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